April-08 Board Meeting Chat Transcript
From LoTVWiki
As recorded by Edwin Wise.
setiseye = Silona Bonewald, president
4:15:16 PM EdwinWise: ta-da! 4:16:31 PM setiseye: see we need you here for documentation! 4:16:42 PM EdwinWise: damn! 4:16:45 PM EdwinWise: yah 4:16:54 PM EdwinWise: I'm gonna get elected secretary, huh? 4:16:56 PM EdwinWise: :D 4:17:48 PM setiseye: yeppers 4:17:50 PM setiseye: you are 4:18:04 PM EdwinWise: :P I can do that, I'll be secretary in TWO groups then. 4:18:19 PM EdwinWise: but if someone else really wants it I'm good with that too 4:18:20 PM EdwinWise: heh 4:20:10 PM setiseye: you are now official on the board 4:20:40 PM EdwinWise: yayy! 4:24:49 PM setiseye: so we are electing Randy, beth and rob to advisory board committee 4:24:55 PM setiseye: do you vote Aye? 4:25:13 PM EdwinWise: Aye, indeed 4:26:39 PM setiseye: Nominating Joshua Gay to be membership chair 4:26:40 PM setiseye: aye? 4:27:06 PM EdwinWise: Aye, on your recommendation, since I don't really know him. So Aye. 4:27:41 PM setiseye: he doe membership recruitment for FSF 4:27:51 PM EdwinWise: excellent. 4:28:02 PM setiseye: you were just nomiated as secretary 4:28:10 PM EdwinWise: k 4:28:21 PM EdwinWise: I accept the nomination 4:28:22 PM EdwinWise: :D 4:28:25 PM setiseye: you are secretary! 4:28:35 PM EdwinWise: I feel so responsible now! With an urge to make coffee! 4:28:47 PM setiseye: hey kai is taking over typing duties. I'll keep you updated through the lens of kai 4:28:52 PM setiseye: (er, this is kai now) 4:28:53 PM EdwinWise: okay 4:28:55 PM EdwinWise: hi kai 4:28:55 PM EdwinWise: :D 4:29:03 PM EdwinWise: this is getting logged, too, as my official record 4:29:19 PM setiseye: perfect. you're already doing your duties 4:29:40 PM setiseye: ok: we have money, but not enough to do anything other than get board of directors insuranc 4:29:49 PM EdwinWise: yeah, we poor 4:29:51 PM setiseye: once we have board of directors insurance we can talk to edwin 4:30:02 PM setiseye: er, not edwin, jimmy 4:30:08 PM EdwinWise: better 4:30:25 PM setiseye: silona will be putting in 1000/month from her salary to the org 4:30:44 PM setiseye: membership will provide future money, josh is on this 4:31:54 PM setiseye: nathan (temunji) will be doing some coding work to be able to accept donations on the site 4:32:30 PM setiseye: chris hunter, ui designer, will for 5k make the drupal site much more useable. this has already been spec'ed 4:32:39 PM setiseye: design ideas will be sent to josh 4:33:05 PM setiseye: josh adds agenda item to talk about memebership stratgies. 4:33:35 PM EdwinWise: all sounds good here 4:34:50 PM setiseye: he kicks into gear: "specific actions" is a group that will be useful to help come up with a membership strategy, they are low cost (relatively) and josh likes them, and they also are good with coming up with tech solutions to support these ideas 4:35:39 PM setiseye: some names are dropped that I can't keep u pwith... gregory somethingorother and silona knows another guy who works there 4:35:45 PM setiseye: too 4:39:10 PM setiseye: hrm. trying to extract talk here (from cell phone) idea being that we work with some other organizations that have complimentary (they are lobbying, we are informational) to get members and also set up people in other cities as membership contacts there (sf, nyc, etc) 4:39:33 PM EdwinWise: good idea; get a kick start 4:40:01 PM setiseye: ideas about other board members like jimmy, bradley, tantek etc. 4:40:15 PM EdwinWise: anyone high-profile is good, and should draw more membership 4:41:27 PM setiseye: michelle describes this split between types of board members as "influencial and affluencial" 4:41:51 PM setiseye: (I just suggested we think about 2-3 types of boad member roles and who we want for each time) 4:41:53 PM setiseye: type) 4:42:15 PM setiseye: silona suggests idea to set up private wiki to discuss potential board members 4:42:16 PM EdwinWise: though if we get too fancy, just keeping hte lines of communication tidy could get annoying 4:42:20 PM EdwinWise: yeah 4:42:27 PM setiseye: josh suggests rolling out first goals first and selecting based on that. 4:42:27 PM EdwinWise: or, a google list, either way 4:43:14 PM setiseye: silona wants to get the influencial/doing people first 4:43:36 PM setiseye: but worried that ths is hard 4:43:39 PM EdwinWise: "doing" people are gonna want a goal up front, like Josh there 4:43:40 PM EdwinWise: yeah 4:43:41 PM setiseye: (finding these people) 4:43:48 PM setiseye: right 4:45:45 PM setiseye: silona lists current projects: transparent governement: 1) abstracted databases of legislative stuff 2) free/open social network 3) connect the dots (which is apparently your personal awesome) 4:46:14 PM EdwinWise: heh; yeah, I have some vision for CtD. 4:49:04 PM setiseye: josh suggesting that we cover these ideas under programming projects, the idea that they are actual products being produced. 4:49:28 PM EdwinWise: certainly 4:49:43 PM EdwinWise: which is quite different from, say, membership Changed status to Offline (4:51:01 PM) Changed status to Online (4:52:20 PM) 4:52:22 PM setiseye: ok back 4:52:28 PM EdwinWise: k 4:52:49 PM setiseye: some dude wants to start scraping tex leg stuff. so silona is already talking to him. 4:52:53 PM setiseye: another dude is doing oregon 4:53:07 PM EdwinWise: heh; cool. Do we have any idea of how they are storing this scrape? 4:53:14 PM EdwinWise: e.g. format Changed status to Offline (4:53:44 PM) Changed status to Online (4:53:48 PM) 4:54:02 PM setiseye: grrr. bloody network 4:54:18 PM EdwinWise: yah 4:54:28 PM setiseye: no but silona says to ask about it later (out of meeting scope) 4:54:33 PM EdwinWise: yup, cool. 4:55:46 PM setiseye: some talk about the current site and trying to make it more clear to a layperson 4:55:56 PM setiseye: (as opposed to someone who understands silona's brain) 4:56:14 PM setiseye: (that was a comment translated from silona, not mine. ;-) 4:56:23 PM setiseye: but I did grin. 4:56:44 PM EdwinWise: it's hard ot do a clean site; you have to have right up front those things that will address the "average" user's desired use for that site... whatever that is. 4:56:46 PM EdwinWise: heh 4:56:51 PM setiseye: randy and silona will add a number of nEdwinWise modules like recapcha 4:57:09 PM EdwinWise: plus, good explanatory; I don't WANT ot list how many sites I go to, to see what a group does, to get NO EXPLANATION of that organization. 4:57:16 PM EdwinWise: SPAM must die Changed status to Offline (4:57:44 PM) Changed status to Online (4:58:04 PM) 4:58:18 PM setiseye: also, anyone who wants to get more access can. silona is trying to adina to start blogging on the site. she was one of the people who started this whole mess. silona recruits: also thinking about bob blakely and adina as board members 4:58:52 PM EdwinWise: it would be good to get Bob in, specially since he's claiming our ideas here and there 5:00:58 PM setiseye: apparently silona has already talked to him about this and in fact he's interested in video blogging. rob asked about video, and we agreed that silona, bob, and josh would be good video bloggers or at least put up vieos talking about the ideas that are spEdwinWiseing. 5:01:15 PM setiseye: anything you ahve to suggest for this meeting agenda? 5:01:34 PM EdwinWise: yup; we have 3 vids up now even! Need a good place to highlight them. For this agenda? No, I don't want to complicate this one. 5:01:48 PM setiseye: sounds good 5:01:52 PM EdwinWise: After Flip, I hope to get down to the nuts&bolts on the dots stuff though 5:01:56 PM EdwinWise: it's in my project queueu 5:01:57 PM EdwinWise: ueueue 5:02:09 PM setiseye: que? queue? 5:02:13 PM EdwinWise: queue 5:02:13 PM EdwinWise: heh 5:02:15 PM setiseye: come on spell checker! 5:05:35 PM setiseye: tara hunt is horsepigcow.com is someone who might be another possible board person, both josh and silona think she's doing interesting thigns and gives good presentations 5:06:22 PM EdwinWise: good block there 5:06:26 PM EdwinWise: *blog 5:08:29 PM setiseye: silona reiterates that lotv is about not being behind a political agenda etc. other than "keep data open and here's how" etc. 5:08:53 PM EdwinWise: yes, very much so; trans-partisan. Everything is better with good communication & information 5:09:11 PM setiseye: talk about gis data being closed down in california by legislation 5:09:31 PM EdwinWise: bah; need to find a good offshore ISP 5:09:38 PM EdwinWise: piratebay ferinstance 5:09:38 PM EdwinWise: :D 5:10:06 PM setiseye: heh 5:15:41 PM setiseye: talking about how to get ideas out there, like writing white papers/essays etc that consolidate ideas and make them concise for political type reader peoples 5:15:54 PM EdwinWise: yeah, not a bad idea 5:16:17 PM setiseye: josh has access to a lot of grad student types who might be interested in doing the writing for some money that could perhaps be raised to pay them concept by concept 5:16:30 PM EdwinWise: hmm, like a think-tank 5:17:19 PM setiseye: but virtual 5:17:45 PM EdwinWise: yeah, but useful 5:17:57 PM setiseye: silona pushes arron schwartz as guy who is talking about wikipedia already 5:18:02 PM setiseye: heh! 5:18:05 PM setiseye: exactly. 5:18:07 PM EdwinWise: cool. You change the world by changing how people think. 5:18:11 PM setiseye: and it makes real product for the org 5:18:24 PM setiseye: josh is working with this guy already, so that's a possibility 5:18:36 PM EdwinWise: cool. Yeah, products lead to traffic, traffic to membership... etc 5:19:51 PM setiseye: oh, sorry, context is that wikipedia works but france creating legislation this way didn't work why 5:21:41 PM setiseye: as one example of a topic/project 5:21:42 PM setiseye: for this written thing 5:22:45 PM setiseye: talking now about how much energy can go into policy, cause 510c3 can only spend 20% on poicy promotion 5:28:38 PM setiseye: action items etc. 5:29:13 PM setiseye: josh using existing lotv wiki to work out his ideas about first set of reseach papers 5:29:32 PM EdwinWise: cool 5:29:41 PM setiseye: and now we're ajourining 5:30:02 PM setiseye: and paying tabs 5:30:14 PM EdwinWise: not bad! 5:30:18 PM EdwinWise: less than 2 hours 5:30:27 PM EdwinWise: AND i was able to enter most of 2007 in my accounts 5:30:50 PM setiseye: sweet 5:30:59 PM setiseye: just got that done with michelle kicking my ass recently 5:31:07 PM EdwinWise: yahhh, it's a pain. 5:31:14 PM EdwinWise: After this is in, I can do the actual taxes
